'Twas brillig, and Patrick Shirkey at 09/08/09 15:43 did gyre and gimble: >> I don't know how you managed to get in such a position but I mess >> around with 64 and 32 bit combos all the time and it's really not any >> hassle with pulse. > > Well in this case I have to disagree. However not because I don't think > it's not possible but because I definitely found it to be a hassle > before upgrading because the default Fedora 11 didn't install the 32 bit > libs and since upgrading because I haven't yet built the 32 bit version. Yeah I guess a default install will probably not install 32 bit libs. I doubt that is any different in other distros either. We did have specific deps added for our flash package (typically run as a 32 bit processes - it's only recently gone native as you know). > As you are the Mandrake packager your knowledge of the build process is > definitely more advanced than mine. However I have been working with > Linux Audio for 10 years so I'm not exactly a novice. This is true, but it's more about knowing how 64 and 32 bit systems work together. Even before pulse there needed to be a 32 bit version of libasound for things to work. Now we need a 32 bit libpulse (and a 32 bit alsa->pulse plugin) so things aren't so very different than they used to be in all honesty. I don't think anything major went wrong in your case, just some bizarre hiccups that were compounded to become rather confusing overall. I suspect most users would not have been so unlucky (otherwise we'd see far more questions on this list :)) > I hazard a guess > that this is one thing that would cause people a lot of difficulty and > contribute to the general bad press that pulseaudio recieves online and > in turn Linux Audio on the desktop. I think the poor rollout/integration by some distros which shall remain nameless is the main reason for this. The 64/32 bit issue could certainly have played some part here. If 32 X applications can run flawlessly, then there is no excuse if the sound does not "just work" too. Col -- Colin Guthrie gmane(at)colin.guthr.ie http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/] Open Source: Mandriva Linux Contributor [http://www.mandriva.com/] PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/] Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/]
