On Tue, 11.08.09 09:31, James Bottomley (James.Bottomley at HansenPartnership.com) wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 21:36 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Tue, 11.08.09 05:25, Patrick Shirkey (pshirkey at boosthardware.com) wrote: > > > > >> That Skype is a mess is not really anything free software folks can do > > >> anything about. It's closed source. The Linux version is barely > > >> maintained and does about everything wrong that it can do wrong. I > > >> know that some folks believe that Skype's incompat with PA is my > > >> problem. But quite frankly, it is not. It's Skype's problem. > > > > > > It's not actually. It's the users problem because when they use skype > > > they can't use pulseaudio. Unless of course they have a second sound > > > device such as a usb phone. I personally do have one and maybe it should > > > be recommended as the correct way to use skype on a Linux Audio > > > system. > > > > Hmm, not sure why having a second audio device should solve any > > problems Skype has with PA. Everything Skype can do with the second > > audio device it should be able to do with the first. > > He means hide the second audio device from PA and use it natively in > ALSA for skype. It's a solution; just not a very elegant one. Hmm, but he could temporarily hide the first one too. In fact there is a tool "pasuspender" which does just that for cases like this. > > > >> Also, Realplayer? Why would anyone want to use that? > > > > > > I understand where your coming from but I think it's a crossover issue > > > more than anything. People want to use what tehy are comfortable with > > > and if there is a choice between realplayer and mplayer a lot of people > > > will choose realplayer. > > > > We ship Totem in Fedora, installed by default. I am pretty sure most > > other distributions do that too. People really should use Totem. We > > ship neither realplayer nor mplayer. > > Totem, as most actual users are well aware, is basically hampered by the > lack of codecs (mainly because of patent/licence problems). In > practise, to view actual content users download from the externally > (outside the problem jurisdiction) hosted Packman (SUSE) or rpmfusion > (Red Hat) xine or mplayer because they have much better codec > support. Every codec that is available for xine/mplayer is also available for GStreamer, since they all are based on ffmpeg. There isn't much of a difference between installing mplayer/xine from some external repo or installing gstreamer-ffmpeg from there, is there? Lennart -- Lennart Poettering Red Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4
