IMO, this is the same case as the Microsoft ACM G.723.1 Codec. It can be used by applications because it can be accessed by applications using the ACM API. However, from what I know about codec patents, indemnification is towards a certain company. Even if Symbian has licensed G.729 or AMR, the indemnification is not transferred to the third party applications that may run in the operating system. So, in both of the cases you mentioned, you must pay the royalties for the usage of the codec. Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote: > On Symbian we are allowed to use AMR and other royalty based codec for > 'free' because Nokia already provide such right within the Symbian > operating system. > > I am wondering what if we use a software implementation of AMR or G729 > instead of the Nokia hardware one? > > In such case royalties are to be paid (royalties are not on the > implementation but on the patent's right) or not? > > I mean, if we use an independent codec implementation on Nokia S60 > platform that already provide the license for such codec, do we'll > need to pay for such "independent" codec usage or it's already > "covered" by the fact that the applicaiton run on Nokia S60? > > That's a nice question in terms of legal/licensing issue for Symbian > platform > > Fabio > > _______________________________________________ > Visit our blog: http://blog.pjsip.org > > pjsip mailing list > pjsip at lists.pjsip.org > http://lists.pjsip.org/mailman/listinfo/pjsip_lists.pjsip.org >