On 18 May 2011 23:50, tedd <tedd@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > At 11:22 PM +0200 5/18/11, Peter Lind wrote: >> >> On 18 May 2011 23:12, tedd <tedd@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Â> Thanks, but the point here *is* to get people involved using PHP. >> >> Good and noble intent. Does not in any way have anything to do with >> copypasting. > > That's more of an argument than a fact -- and I don't feel comfortable > calling it copypasting. I'll stick with calling the practice "Copy/Paste" as > defined by Apple. Sure, people can argue that M$ invented the practice, as > they did everything else, but I remember M$ claiming that the mouse wouldn't > make it, and that was before Copy/Paste. Â:-) > > Back to point, I just spent 16 week teaching 16 college students via > "Introduction in PHP" by giving them code to copy/paste. > > As a result, I saw most take-off and learn more than I taught. Sure, there > were some who just didn't get it, but I think they would not have > "gotten-it" even if I had forced them to hard-code everything. Some people > are not geared for programming. > > ------- > > >> *IF* the users follow directions - a lot of them won't. Some of them >> will copypaste it into different environments than you have envisaged. >> Then someone will probably also find a bug in it at some point. > > If they do find a bug, then I'll deal with it. But putting this link up for > review by peers, as I've done here, is one way to help catch those bugs. > > ------ > >> Â> Granted, for over a dozen years I've provided various "code" to users >> and >>> >>> Âhave more than my share of stories to tell of how they don't follow >>> Âdirections -- just take a look at my "Web Tips" pages. However, I would >>> have >>> Âgreatly appreciated someone showing me what an include was back in 1998. >>> It >>> Âcould have saved me a lot of trouble. >> >> You make my point for me but for some reason don't want to follow the >> logical conclusion of it. Why? > > I stated my reason, Perhaps I'm wrong, but that remains to be seen. However, > it is not fact that your position is a logical conclusion -- it's just your > conclusion. > Premise: The code I've placed in the "Copy/Paste" sections will work "as-is" *IF* the users follow directions. I've tested it and it does work. Premise: Granted, for over a dozen years I've provided various "code" to users and have more than my share of stories to tell of how they don't follow directions -- just take a look at my "Web Tips" pages. Logical conclusion: you cannot guarantee what you're trying to, namely "it does work". Regards Peter -- <hype> WWW: plphp.dk / plind.dk LinkedIn: plind BeWelcome/Couchsurfing: Fake51 Twitter: kafe15 </hype> -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
