On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 13:03 -0400, Bastien Koert wrote: > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Daniel Brown<danbrown@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:38, Tony Marston<tony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> What rules? I never agreed to abide by any rules before I started posting to > >> this group. My newsreader assumes top posting by default, so I have been top > >> posting for the past 10 years. If you don't like it then it is your problem, > >> not mine. > > > > Absolutely 100% completely incorrect, and in all honesty, that's > > quite an ignorant attitude. That's not to say that I think *you* are > > ignorant, but rather the attitude toward established rules and > > guidelines that have been around long before you began posting, and > > will remain long after you leave. > > > > See: > > http://php.net/mailing-lists.php --- which links to: > > http://php.net/reST/php-src/README.MAILINGLIST_RULES > > (Specifically: "General" #3) > > > > So while it's my problem, it is also *your* problem, as the offender. > > > > If you didn't agree to rules beforehand, that's your issue. > > Ignorance is not a defense. You were - or had the opportunity to be - > > made aware of the rules of the list, and as such, agree to abide by > > them by continuing to post in this - or any - public forum. Much the > > same as, by traveling to a foreign country, you agree to be bound by > > their rules and regulations. You cannot simply claim that you did not > > know of a rule. > > > > And for the record, Gmail assumes top-posting as well. It takes > > between one and three seconds to align each message properly, which is > > a pain in the butt each time, I agree, but it's something that has to > > be done. Otherwise, it breaks threads and makes the archives very > > difficult to read --- damning the purpose of even having them there > > for the benefit of others on the Internet. > > > > For years, we've all adapted to this, because they were the rules, > > and because we respect each other enough in the community to follow > > them. Here's hoping that you won't be the odd-man-out of that > > respectful group. > > > > Thanks. > > > > -- > > </Daniel P. Brown> > > daniel.brown@xxxxxxxxxxxx || danbrown@xxxxxxx > > http://www.parasane.net/ || http://www.pilotpig.net/ > > Check out our great hosting and dedicated server deals at > > http://twitter.com/pilotpig > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > > > Gmail on iPhone/iPod touch does the same thing. Fortunately with > copy'n'paste I can now get it to work thru the email interface. The > web version of gmail (while nicer looking) is giving me grief in > moving to the bottom of the message when attempting a reply (hence the > few replies that are top posted, sorry ;-P ) > -- > > Bastien > > Cat, the other other white meat > My email client does the same thing too, and I find it takes me a whole second and a half to move my cursor to the right point in the email. Averaging just over 60 messages in a month, that totals to just over a minute and a half. Damnit phpgeneral, give me that minute and a half back of my life! Thanks Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
