The following comment is not intended to be helpful.... *smacks head on desk repeatedly...* This comment is.. I would hazard to say that if you are unwilling or unable to grasp OOP, MVCs and any decent framework that is necessary then maybe stepping back and tackling only things you can grasp. I do not mean to come across condescending and I apologize if I have anyway; however, I do not see an alternative solution for you. Stick to what you are comfortable with and think about outsourcing the OOP to someone you can trust to write decent code. -----Original Message----- From: Bob McConnell [mailto:rvm@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:06 AM To: Virgilio Quilario Cc: php-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Smarty Tips and Techniques From: Virgilio Quilario >> That looks nice, but how do I get to the point where I can understand >> how to use it? >> >> I have also looked at the Smarty site <http://www.smarty.net/>, but >> their documents assume significant experience in building and using >> templates. >> >> Where can I find guidance or tutorials on how to do all of this, >> starting with only a rudimentary knowledge of HTML and PHP. It would be >> best if they also focused on procedural rather than object oriented >> code. > > > When I started learning smarty, I spent most of my time doing research > and that's really tiresome and it is so hard to find examples. > Experimented a lot and listed those what's possible, then applied them > to my projects. > > Now to make them handy I posted them to my site so i can have a look > whenever and wherever. > http://www.jampmark.com/php-programming/16-very-useful-smarty-scripting- tips-and-techniques-to-make-templates-smarter.html > > As a first step, maybe you should see the crash course at smarty > http://www.smarty.net/crashcourse.php Hi Virgil, After your last post here, I looked at your site, then the Smarty site. That was what triggered this question. Templates are a black art to me. I don't even know where to begin to understand them. Every reference I have looked at so far assumes that I already understand the MVC pattern, which is also one of the dark arts. Let me put it simply. I can't grok OO. I tried to do OOP for several years, but it simply does not make any sense to me. As a direct result, I don't understand the concept nor application of patterns. So how do I figure out how to use templates without having to absorb those first? Can I learn enough this way to determine if a site can be converted from the current state (PHP and XHTML spaghetti) into templates and begin that transformation? Thank you, Bob McConnell -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3948 (20090319) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3948 (20090319) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
