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On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Daniel Brown <parasane@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Nathan Nobbe <quickshiftin@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > umm, so?  why would i have said it otherwise?  im fully aware of the
> scope
> > of this list.  every company on the planet that employs people has the
> same
> > mentality, so its a totally reasonable statement.
>
>     Correct, but if you're doing a freelance job, selling yourself as
> being knowledgeable, the client expects *you* to be doing the work....
> not to pawn it off on the cheapest subcontractor you can find.  That's
> the only point I was directing at you.
>

oic, yea i sortof thought about that, but assumed we were speaking in the
context of full time employment.  i never have made it in the consulting
world, but i wish i could.  it sounds like it could be a lot more fun than
full time employment, albiet more difficult.  id be lying if i said i hadnt
thought of doing sub-contracting before.  i know it could be dirty,
depending upon what you hand the client, but i think it would still take
some skill, and either way, it would be the middle-mans rep at stake, so
theres still some inherent risk there, imo.


> >>    Remember, this is all in public archives, so everything you say
> >> CAN and WILL be used against you by a future employer or client with
> >> enough knowledge to research your background on the 'Net.  I do before
> >> I offer or accept anything from a client or
> >> employee/contractor/consultant/etc.
> >
> > im trying to imagine what an employer might hold against me if they saw
> this
> > post.  maybe you can help me out.
>
>     Not that they'll hold it against you, per se, but refer to my
> paragraph above (from this message, not the quote).


i guess youre right, you never know what other people will think of you.
and if they get an opinion of you based on threads in the public domain, you
might not ever know why either =/


> >> because of his use of racial slurs and QWERTYmuscles[TM] (you heard
> >> the term here first!  ;-P).  Y'know how, when some people get drunk,
> >> they get in a fighting mood?  Yeah, that's how this guy was with a
> >> keyboard.
> >
> > have i uttered (typed) any racial slurs ?  please point them out if i
> have,
> > and ill take them back.  i understand what youre saying, but not why
> youre
> > associating me w/ this story.
>
> >>    Last week I turned down a pretty good graphic artist for a gig
>
>    No, no, not at all.  You're always respectful and helpful.  It was
> an anecdote as it applied to the point: employers and clients search
> the Internet and can find things you (or anyone) have said at any
> point.  So let this message clarify that --- it was meant to indicate
> that I, as a prospective employer, turned an employee down based on
> his recent history on the Internet.
>

fair enough.

   Nathan Nobbe, himself, is a good little brat.  ;-P
>

heh, hopefully prospective employers and (dare i say) prospective clients,
feel the same way :)

-nathan

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