Re: Frameworks

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Andrés Robinet wrote:
I want a framework I can plug a microphone in, and talk to it, and it does the
job for me (really, I need it). But I guess we are far away from that.
You need it? And what happens if you won't get it in a life time?
If you need REAL RAD ("a la Delphi"), use VCL for PHP... you'll still have to
write the event handlers (you can't save yourself from coding) and you will have
to stick with Codegear (you are of those who pay for software, right?).
REAL RAD? Is that an acronym or is that emphasis? But no thanks. If I've paid around 1000 dollars on software, that would be a bit much. And that must have been a decade ago.
If you are looking for a flexible PHP 5 framework, where each component is more
or less independent of the others, try the Zend Framework.
That's what is on my list of candidates, yes.
If you want a lot of features bundled into a big and fat box, and you need PHP 4
support, use CakePHP. Even the way you name database tables will be affected,
but if you eat a piece of the cake you are likely to want it all anyway.
Wait..... PHP 4? I admit that I don't use all the OOP of PHP 5, but really I don't let myself be forced to use deprecated software if it is my income. No, I haven't touched PHP 4 like 3,5 years now.
If you want a flexible and easy to use PHP 4 and PHP 5 framework and you are
willing to wait more than six months for each minor release, you can use
CodeIgniter.
Ok, that one is of my list of candidates then.
If you are rich, you can pay us (the PHP-list members) to build one for you :D.
It will be a complete disaster because we'll never agree on the features, but
you'll entertain yourself with our discussions for months.
I think I keep that in mind when I've become rich and lonely and need some entertainment.
If your IQ is greater than 150 you can try writing your own.
Is IQ really relevant to being capable of writing your own framework? Ok, an IQ of 70 won't get you advanced software out of your hands. I've an IQ between 160 and 170 (lost the score along the path somewhere). But I couldn't be bothered to write my own framework just to invent some wheels to have a nice ride. It could be a challenge and might even be rewarding afterwards, but in the mean while it won't get me anywhere. So much for RAD and then writing your own framework..... Must be kidding ;-)

OK, thanks for your input. Some points are really helpful!

Aschwin Wesselius


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