let's break this down shall we. 1. there is no such thing a business [programming] language (you can lie through your teeth and sell shit in any language ;-), although some language may be synonymous with business because of their frequent use to solve business specific logic problems. 2. business is not as important as you think it is - writing it in all-caps doesn't make it so either. 3. nowhere has it ever been claimed that this list focuses on business issues (unless you're talking about the business of writing code in it's own right, but I don't believe you are) 4. "how do I do X" questions are the basis of any craft - if you're in need of discussing business issues then that suggests you have questions regarding something, this essentially comes down to "how do I do X". you seem to consider that questions posed beginners/intermediates as below your level of expertise, possibly those that you turn to for answers regarding 'business issues' regard you in the same fashion? 5. you maybe suffering from some deeply repressed sexual frustrations - given by the so called freudian slip 'Good Lick', ok it was most like a typo :-) 6. IBM, Oracle and others seem to be less sure about whether php will ever be a major player in the business solutions arena (often referred to as 'being enterprise ready') ... there may be some way to go in this sense but there are plenty of people doing their best to make it possible by working on the core of php and developing frameworks/utilities that are up to the job. 7. if you have a question or issue you would like to discuss why then start the ball rolling - no one here has a direct link into your head that allows them to answer questions you have never asked. 8. php is not the answer to everything, just ask my girlfriend. Mark Allen wrote: > I had high hopes for it when I started down the path, and was glad to find > this list thinking that it would be a great resource for using PHP to help > solve BUSINESS issues but basically 80% of the questions have nothing to do > with BUSINESS issues but "how do I do X" questions which IMO should NOT be > necessary for a true BUSINESS programming language. Those that aren't in > the 80% are "Tricks/hacks", something to show off and do not represent a > solution to actually make PHP a language that can solve real world > problems. > > I'll keep it in my toolbox for the simple, quick way to get something to > the > inter/intranet but other than that it's not ever going to be a major player > in Real World business solutions. > > Good Lick ALL.... > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php