Nice observation. On 4/13/07, Robert Cummings <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear Tedd, Please put me down for one pint of asshole, because while you sit on that glass pedestal of CSS superiority I can't help but notice how http://ancientstones.com/ looks completely fucked up in Opera. Opera I might add is ACID2 compliant. Now please go shove your "better than thou CSS up your ass" :) Trust me, I am at least as versed as you in CSS and choose to use tables. Cheers, Rob. On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 20:02 -0400, tedd wrote: > At 6:31 PM -0500 4/12/07, Richard Lynch wrote: > >On Thu, April 12, 2007 1:34 pm, Robert Cummings wrote: > >> ... It's too bad, I love CSS, it > >> makes for really clean markup, but using it completely in place of > >> tables just isn't feasible right now without resorting to CSS > >> "tricks". > >> And using tricks is just as much against the spirit of CSS as using > >> tables for layout :) > > > >While straying even more OT than usual, I must chime in with "me too" > > > >I cannot count the number of times I've seen CSS purists pull out > >gnarly disgusting hacks, far worse than any nested table layout, to > >work around browser incompatibilities. > > > >It would be nice if CSS actually let designers specify what they need > >to specify. [Can you say 3-column layout with page footer?] > > > >And if browsers actually implemented CSS correctly... > > > >But, really, CSS is still lacking in what seems to me some basic > >fundamentals in terms of being able to say "put this thing here, and > >that thing there" and you end up resorting to all kinds of > >non-intuitive code to get the look you want... > > Richard, you surprise me. > > CSS is like any other tool -- learn to use it and it will work. > > As far as any layout, if you can show an example it can be done in css. > > As far as replacing tables, CSS doesn't -- it provides tables even > more versatility. Tables have their place, but not in layout. > > Lastly, one man's gnarly disgusting hack, is another man's way around > a short coming of IE. How many times have you had to use javascript > to accomplish a task instead of using just php? One could call that a > gnarly disgusting hack, but it's just a solution. As this list > proves, no language is without problems. > > Cheers, > > tedd > -- > ------- > http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com > -- .------------------------------------------------------------. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :------------------------------------------------------------: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `------------------------------------------------------------'
