Re: Re: cleanly written shop-system (php5, object-oriented)?

Jochem Maas <jochem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> · Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:58:55 +0200

James Benson wrote:
Bad choice of words.

I was comparing PHP4 to PHP5 and how long PHP4 has been around compared 
to PHP5, it's bound to be more stable aint it?

is it. probably , yes, but not by definition. you can say that php4 has
had more coverage which probably means it contains less bugs that nobody
has encountered.

I was not trying to say PHP5 is not stable because im sure it is very 
much so.

how sure ;-)

Or am I not allowed to say anything like that in this forum?

thankfully you are allowed to say what you want, although some of
the more sensitive types (and those work for large fearful corporations)
may block your posts due to 'rude' language ;-)

Ill just silently exit through the back door then :)

lol

Jochem Maas wrote:

James Benson wrote:

PHP5 has yet to see the maturity and stability PHP4 offers which is 
why most applications use it.

Worst thing you can do is design a website in entirely flash :)

no the worst thing you can do is spread FUD.
which you have just done, unless you are capable of backing up your 
off the cuff
remarks (about the stability of php5) with hard imperical data, which 
I doubt.

actually 'the worst thing you can do' is more likely to be something like
'invading a sovereign state in order to be able to subsidise your own 
oil-addicted,
brainwashed, selfrighteous society' than something that's anything to 
do with
php or the web. but then again maybe not ;-)

Phillip Oertel wrote:

hi,

i want to create a "shop server" application. the shop client interface
will be in flash (communication with php over xml, soap or amfphp), the
administration interface will be html. most likely it will probably 
be a
long-running application that will be extended in several steps, so we
need a solid foundation. we also need to get started quickly (who
doesn't), otherwise i would consider starting from scratch.

i have already looked around quite a lot for a nicely adaptable
shop/ecommerce implementation, but haven't been very successful so far.
everything i found was conceived in php4 times, where OO wasn't as
wide-spread in the php community as it is today. some of the packages
are poorly documented (both in-code and separate documentation), 
have an
inconsistent coding style, are dead, are copies of oscommerce with a
worse interface, ...

feature-wise the best i found was xtcommerce (oscommerce fork)
admin interface wise: zencart (oscommerce fork)
code-wise: randshop
non of them use php5's features, though, none are written 
object-oriented.

i have no info on the performance of these shops, although that
shouldn't be a prob as long as it's not desastrous (to some extend, you
can always scale hardware-wise).

so i am looking for a cleanly layered application where i could swap 
out
the presentation layer. and all important shop data (products, product
categories, cart, etc.) should be represented as objects, so i could
extend them to implement required customizations.
it would be a big plus if the admin interface was well thought-out.

we need quite some features like multiple languages, multiple
categories, discounts on certain products, payment provider 
integration,
customer newsletters, possibly administration of several slightly
different shops in one installation, etc.

is there such an application or am i stuck with oscommerce and its 
forks?
i don't need it to be feature complete, as long as there is a way to
adapt the code without hacking the whole thing (and loosing the
possibility of upgrading).

as long as the code was open, i would be happy to pay a certain amount
for the application.

anyone?

phil

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