Re: Re: cleanly written shop-system (php5, object-oriented)?

[James Benson <jb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Bad choice of words.


I was comparing PHP4 to PHP5 and how long PHP4 has been around compared 
to PHP5, it's bound to be more stable aint it?

I was not trying to say PHP5 is not stable because im sure it is very 
much so.

Or am I not allowed to say anything like that in this forum?
Ill just silently exit through the back door then :)





Jochem Maas wrote:
> James Benson wrote:
>
> > PHP5 has yet to see the maturity and stability PHP4 offers which is 
> > why most applications use it.
> >
> > Worst thing you can do is design a website in entirely flash :)
>
>
> no the worst thing you can do is spread FUD.
> which you have just done, unless you are capable of backing up your off 
> the cuff
> remarks (about the stability of php5) with hard imperical data, which I 
> doubt.
>
> actually 'the worst thing you can do' is more likely to be something like
> 'invading a sovereign state in order to be able to subsidise your own 
> oil-addicted,
> brainwashed, selfrighteous society' than something that's anything to do 
> with
> php or the web. but then again maybe not ;-)
>
> > Phillip Oertel wrote:
> >
> > > hi,
> > >
> > > i want to create a "shop server" application. the shop client interface
> > > will be in flash (communication with php over xml, soap or amfphp), the
> > > administration interface will be html. most likely it will probably be a
> > > long-running application that will be extended in several steps, so we
> > > need a solid foundation. we also need to get started quickly (who
> > > doesn't), otherwise i would consider starting from scratch.
> > >
> > > i have already looked around quite a lot for a nicely adaptable
> > > shop/ecommerce implementation, but haven't been very successful so far.
> > > everything i found was conceived in php4 times, where OO wasn't as
> > > wide-spread in the php community as it is today. some of the packages
> > > are poorly documented (both in-code and separate documentation), have an
> > > inconsistent coding style, are dead, are copies of oscommerce with a
> > > worse interface, ...
> > >
> > > feature-wise the best i found was xtcommerce (oscommerce fork)
> > > admin interface wise: zencart (oscommerce fork)
> > > code-wise: randshop
> > > non of them use php5's features, though, none are written 
> > > object-oriented.
> > >
> > > i have no info on the performance of these shops, although that
> > > shouldn't be a prob as long as it's not desastrous (to some extend, you
> > > can always scale hardware-wise).
> > >
> > > so i am looking for a cleanly layered application where i could swap out
> > > the presentation layer. and all important shop data (products, product
> > > categories, cart, etc.) should be represented as objects, so i could
> > > extend them to implement required customizations.
> > > it would be a big plus if the admin interface was well thought-out.
> > >
> > > we need quite some features like multiple languages, multiple
> > > categories, discounts on certain products, payment provider integration,
> > > customer newsletters, possibly administration of several slightly
> > > different shops in one installation, etc.
> > >
> > > is there such an application or am i stuck with oscommerce and its 
> > > forks?
> > > i don't need it to be feature complete, as long as there is a way to
> > > adapt the code without hacking the whole thing (and loosing the
> > > possibility of upgrading).
> > >
> > > as long as the code was open, i would be happy to pay a certain amount
> > > for the application.
> > >
> > > anyone?
> > >
> > > phil

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