Re: Branding & spelling - card holder

Gregory <fyrframe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> · Thu, 26 Dec 2013 17:51:34 -0800

>>>>>He was a great publicist 
and promoted photography in general to sell his own 
reputation.<<<<

But isn’t that common with most great artists? 
At some point you have to get out there and promote your greatness. I am the 
best photographer for the job. Hire me, see me, adore me. 

Or, you end up like I have in that no one has 
ever heard of me, even though I have sold a lot of images, and won lots of 
awards over the years.

Gregory

From: Jan Faul 
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 3:19 PM
To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - 
Professionals - Students 
Subject: Re: Branding & spelling - card 
holder

I don’t know them. Are they? It’s mostly kids behind who come along and cll 
us oldsters liars like you’re doing right here with me. Ansel was a good teacher 
if you stuck your pride in a sock and obeyed his directions. But he wasn’t 
perfectly nice all the time -- I’m not either as you already know.

I see Ansel as a photographer who was at his best before 1950. He was a 
great publicist and promoted photography in general to sell his own reputation. 
I guess nobody you knew ever got promised a box of 55PN, huh? I’m still waiting 
and somehow I don’t think it’s coming.

On Dec 26, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Randy Little wrote:

    So john  and Willy are liars? 
  On Dec 26, 2013 5:41 PM, "Jan Faul" <jan@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

    On Dec 26, 2013, at 5:16 PM, visfxsup wrote:

      I might have when my father was at the workshops but I would have 
      been between 5 and 8 when he was going every year.  Im still going to 
      trust willy and john about adams.  I spent a lot of time with them. 
      So between them and my father I am going to go with the gracious adams 
      stories and not the jan version.   

    Ansel was not a very nice guy to talented photographers coming along. 
    I’m glad you’re happy with sugarcoating his memories, as I am not. The worst 
    part about getting older and still having a good memory is that kids like 
    you come along behind and call us liars. He hated competitors and if you 
    could lift a 4x5, you were a competitor.

    The best thing AA ever did for me was to tell me I would never become a 
    photographer. 

Art Faul

    The Artist Formerly Known as 
    Prints
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    Art for Cars: art4carz.com
    Stills That Move: http://www.artfaul.com
    Greens: http://www.inkjetprince.com
    Camera Works - The Washington 
    Post
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/battlefieldparks/front_qt.htm
    ArtNet: http://www.artnet.com/artists/jan+w.-faul/

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Art Faul

The Artist Formerly 
Known as Prints
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Art for Cars: art4carz.com
Stills That 
Move: http://www.artfaul.com
Greens: http://www.inkjetprince.com
Camera Works - The 
Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/battlefieldparks/front_qt.htm
ArtNet: http://www.artnet.com/artists/jan+w.-faul/

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