I'm sort of familiar with what happens in Cine. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2325729/. using content aware in AE is like asking to have a trunk drive on your head. It sort of almost works in a way that might be useful. Cropping isn't really an option. The trick was to scan super 35 at 4k or shoot 70mm for push ins. now they just shoot in 4k. 5k are available and 6k and 8k are in full devel stages. which gives a lot of options unless you are delivery 4k (which is still a bit rare but changing.)
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:43 PM, karl shah-jenner <shahjen@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 11:20 AM
----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Little" <randyslittle@xxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: June 1, 2013 Reviews
wowno cropping is to cut off something that existed in your shot. Frameing
is the shot as intended to be displayed. Framing is what is happing within
say a Frame. Cropping as a definition is to remove excess. So I;m going
to say it no longer is what you originally intended to be in the frame. IE
what ever frameing you chose you have now cut into that framing. Frame can
either be the whole frame of some portion as decided BEFORE firing the
shutter. So lets go back to what we are actually talking about. My shot
could have been framed looser to accommodate photoshops
CRAPPY undistorted tool and in turn NOT CROP my shot to produce LOSS OF
IMAGE. Since that camera has an electronic view finder that auto corrects
for lens distortion (THE CORRECT WAY by showing the scaled image ) I framed
the shot the way I WANTED IT. Since I had that camera for about 2 days
when I took that shot. I now have auto correct OFF. So that I see the
lens distortion. Your example while mathematically valid. (2 year M&P
class at RIT 1st year now) is a massive loss of detail or data to
produce the SAME SIZE printed or web image. Unless of course you are
printing very small. How do you think Joyce Tenneson crops a 30x40
polaroid? oops you can't. So as I said before IF YOU FIND YOUR SELF
CROPPING OFTEN then something is wrong in how you are acquiring your
images. It how I was trained by more then a few of the very best shooters
to ever live and it how I choose to shoot. Cropping only when there is no
other option for the myriad of reason that could be.
I often - nay, almost always crop the edge off my 35mm frames.
I even inserted a crop frame into some of my cameras like the mamiya press - or used a different back, same same.
the terms framing and cropping are well established, after all I don't know of many opportunities for the cine guys to crop - so framing was pretty much all they ever had (they do now have such tools and use them after the ' content aware image resizing ' algorithms were ported to cine use)
but they are conventions, terms. I could describe myself cropping out an element of reality I didn't like or framing in the ones I did as I took a shot, or the same in the darkroom.. after all making a print is really photographing a negative - people forget that.
k
