Re: Anything but that!

Russ <rebphoto@xxxxxxxxxxx> · Wed, 10 Apr 2013 19:29:09 -0400



    Sure is.......

      
      All unpublished........

        
        And full of HAPPY customers!

          
          You seem to be confusing what

          Professional is............

          
          As I keep saying.............

            
            I make people look good.

              
              You may not like what I do.

                And that is certainly your choice.

                  And you are intitled to your opinion

                    
    On 4/10/2013 7:23 PM, Randy Little
      wrote:

    
      you mean this site isn't your work? http://www.rebphoto.smugmug.com/

        
        Randy S. Little

          http://www.rslittle.com
          
            http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2325729/
          

        On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 3:21 PM, David
          Dyer-Bennet <dd-b@xxxxxxxx>
          wrote:

          
            On 2013-04-10 16:40, Randy Little wrote:

              
                Russ I am sorry but I wouldn't call that professional
                level.   It might

                be serious hobbiest level.   I wouldn't consider that
                work for publication.

              
            The terminology isn't used very consistently, so I hope
            nobody takes offense at previous things said or what I'm
            about to say :-).

            
            It seems to me that frequently doing work for paying clients
            who aren't your relatives :-) is one useful meaning of
            "professional", particularly if it's a significant portion
            of your total income.  (I've done some of that, but never
            enough for it to be a significant portion of my total
            income.  I've claimed to be working semi-pro a few years.)

            
            However, many photographers think of portrait mills and
            catalog photography production lines (not fancy product work
            for ads, but the bulk fast work for little catalog
            illustrations) as more like being an employee of some
            company rather than being a "professional photographer".

            
            And, just to confuse matters, some amateurs, people not
            making any significant part of their income from
            photography, routinely do work to technical and aesthetic
            standards considerably beyond what most people in portrait
            mills and catalog photography production lines, at least,
            do.  Probably beyond what many small-town general-market
            studio photographers mostly do (senior portraits and
            weddings and a little product work and some art and
            whatever).

            
            And then wedding specialists and photojournalists bring in
            another issue -- they absolutely have to come back with
            usable images each time they go out on a job or their career
            might end right on the spot.  Which is yet another different
            set of issues and worries, and can cause them to denigrate
            people who sit in a comfortable studio and can shoot the
            stationary product over and over again until they like the
            result :-).

            
            So there's a wide range of views -- technical ability,
            artistic ability, speed, independent clients validating your
            work, consistency and reliability, probably other things --
            on what's really important.  And sometimes those get wound
            up in defining what constitutes "professional", too.

            
            I think any reasonable definition of "professional" does
            have to include other people consistently paying you for
            your work.  And that provides at least some objective
            outside validation that your work is useful (to somebody),
            and that when hired you actually produce some results.  But
            anything beyond that is, I think, apt not to be agreed on
            broadly.
            
              
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Russ

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