Re: PF members exhibit on March 16, 2013

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On 2013-03-16 23:51, YGelmanPhoto wrote:
This week's collection is much more eclectic than usual -- probably due to the scramble to get something in after being told than Nothing was in the pot!  Anyway, here's my take.
   -yoram


On Mar 16, 2013, at 1:24 PM, Andrew Davidhazy wrote:

The PhotoForum members' gallery/exhibit space was updated March 16, 2013. Authors with work now on display at: http://people.rit.edu/andpph/gallery.html include:

       Andrew Sharpe - Bixby Park, Palo Alto, California
                    I don't understand what I'm looking at.

Is that good or bad?

We're clearly looking at a watercourse, heading off into the distance left (and you can see a bit of the next turn right in the upper right corner of the land area). We're clearly looking at reflections of poles coming up out of the water. The horizontal members must be essentially on the surface of the water, since we see no separate reflections of them. (We can verify the bottom pole images are reflections since they're slightly modulated by the small ripples on the water.) Possibly they form some sort of dam (perhaps the water beyond them is lower than the water on our side of them; no way to tell from the photo that I've thought of), or perhaps they're to limit the spread of the driftwood we see floating in a number of places on our side of it, or perhaps it's something else entirely. Is the image about the real-world purpose of what we're seeing, or it it about itself?

And after looking at your next four, I see you got out of bed on the wrong side that morning :-).


       Randy Little - 	
                   The image is what it is.  To me there had to be a lot of "retouching".  The claim of "ZERO retouching only dodge and burn and and some minor CC" is self-contradictory.

"Retouching" and basic darkroom techniques were worlds apart. Since he's using the term, I'm assuming he's using those definitions (since there aren't any other agreed ones, anyway).

"Printing" included normal color correction, contrast and exposure adjustment, and some selective contrast, exposure, and color adjustment. (Deliberately choosing wild choices, from cross-processing to solarization to un-named weirdnesses, was generally mentioned explicitly, but was in any case always obvious.)

"Retouching" was taking lines out of people's faces and such (generally by painting dyes on the print or sometimes directly on the negative).

Fancier compositing was done various ways, from multiple exposures to extreme multi-master dye transfer printing (mostly used for fancy advertisements as this was too expensive for most artists).

So what Randy is saying there is clear to me -- he made small adjustments to overall and local density, and to overall color. But he did NOT clone out or in image elements or paint things over or anything like that.

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