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Herschel




Karl you are an unending source of information and sometimes even
inspiration to me but I must challenge the idea that art has always been
made to explain/explore/understand the world etc.


Before the academifying of art, much was done just for fun and for
decoration and sharing of experiences. Much art is done simply to
understand art itself and visual language.


I agree with you on that =)


In his quest to understand and find a solid, non-axiomatic foundation
for mathematics, the logician Bertrand Russell finally admitted failure
and claimed that his life's work had taught him that science is
subordinate to human emotion and less governed by logic and reason.

Students that turn away from technology as an approach to photography
often make very good, critically observed and captured moments which fly
past people thinking about densitometry and N+2/N-2...ummm I mean pixels
and histograms.

A great photograph is seldom great by virtue of it's technical
excellence alone.

Students that approach photography from the technical "portal" (As I
did) can take far longer to reach a stage where they are engaging with
the subject critically.

This is fine for a commercial or perhaps even a modern editorial
photographer and even a requirement in most cases
But for art it is a hindrance...


hmm, I find myself agreeing with you a lot there too.  this reminded me of
a student I knew, came literally crying to me one day after a particularly
complex class in sensitometry she'd been in and was about to quit
photography..

I asked her why she was studying photography and she said it was to get
better at it, and when I asked she showed me a collection of her photos
from before she began studying.

I looked them over and advised her to quit.

Then I told her all the tech stuff we learn is so we can get closer to
knowing how to do things easily, to minimise errors and become proficient
to the point that we don't need to fret over how to make the image we want
to make  -

I'm not talking of those who just click and get good shots, I mean more
those who know what they want, have a goal and are striving to get it
right..

And in time this stuff becomes second nature.  I want a 1:1 macro, I really
dont need to calculate anything, nor even think about the compensation ..
and I certainly don't need to muddle my way there, I just do it because I
can now.   it's become second nature.


Well this young lady was an intuitive photographer.  She was doing what our
most advanced photographer were doing, and she'd come to this point by
taking photos and subliminaly learning what she was doing wrong and how to
get it right - she couldnt explain much at all about any of the technical
processes, but she was as good at making photographs as anyone could hope
to be, and the 'process' was too tech for her, too confusing, and cripling
her actual skill.

I told her all this stuff we were learning was purely to get her to the
point she was already at.

Poor thing, it wasn't luck or some sort of blessing that got her to where
she was, she'd got herself there by independant thought and working hard at
learning to be be better.

Sometimes the tech stuff CAN cripple an already skilled person.

Sad thing was, she still felt her photos were rubbish.

I told her all skilled people will feel that way, it's what drives them
constantly to improve.


k
















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