RE: Imaginary colors Speculation

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Hi

X-rays are fuzzy because they are shadow graphs as x-rays cannot be
focussed. I believe astronomers have x-ray telescopes that do focus the rays
in a reflection mirror using grazing angle incidence. The x-ray tomography
which I played a part in developing is a multiple exposure from different
angles and the resulting shadow graphs are integrated to give a 3D image
with a computer that takes the density of the image at various places and
works out with the ray path and sums the contributions from different rays
to map the hidden object as a synthesised 3-d image.

I worked with a radiographer and a doctor in the medical school of St
Bartholomew's hospital, London back in 1973. I worked out the general idea
based on existing practise and worked out the mathematics which we put on a
computer and then we did another computer algorithm that was able to change
the number of cells and angles. 

The first ones were made by Marconi but they sold out to the American giant
General Electric as the machine was very expensive who later sold out to a
Japanese electronics company who improved it and it became now cheap enough
for nearly all western hospitals. 

We later worked on Atomic magnetic resonance imaging that used a magnetic
gradient and radio frequency resonance. With this the cell only resonates if
the magnetic field and the radio frequency are exactly right for the atoms
concerned and then only if the atomic microenvironment is correct.

The system acts on electrons in a magnetic field where the resonant
frequency depends on the local magnetic field. This is the result of the
external field and the local field generated by the chemical environment.
The system can show a map of chemical species in the body.

Another system uses neutron magnetic resonance NMR, another uses proton
magnetic resonance and that maps water. Since the body is nearly all water
this magnetic resonance imaging method shows a map of all the tissue in the
body as shades a grey (can be given false colours) except blood because
blood is moving so blood vessels show black as empty.

Not photography (Painting with light) but the general case of imaging. I
don't think any one has done any artistic work with magnetic resonance.

These are unseen colours....

Chris
 

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[mailto:owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Dyer-Bennet
Sent: 07 November 2009 16:40
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Subject: Re: Imaginary colors Speculation

PhotoRoy6@xxxxxxx wrote:
> There are no other colors except for the ones we see. The other part 
> of electromagnetic spectrum are just wave lengths. Any other animal 
> that can sense the other parts of the spectrum can only see them in 
> colors we know to exist but most probably sense them in different way 
> altogether. When we develop x-ray film it is black and white(i.e. 
> clear) and fuzzy.

Your first two sentences may be tautologically true (if you're asserting 
that "color" is a human construct), but it's also useless.

The third sentence is a matter of opinion, not fact; you can't know very 
much about the subjective experience of other species, and what we might 
know is fairly speculative.  I do like the tests that show that pigeons, 
at least, see light frequency the way we hear notes (that is, ratios of 
frequencies mean something to them), though, and that would certainly 
qualify as "in different ways altogether". 

I don't think the point about x-ray film really establishes anything 
either.  Remember, ordinary color film is really just B&W too, we use 
filters and dyes to make it look colored to us.  And the "fuzzy" bit 
implies that x-rays are somehow fuzzy, whereas actually they're more 
precise than visible light (which is why they use UV and higher 
frequencies for lithography in chip fabs these days).

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