> Yes there are a lot of hoax images. It shows the contempt that the others hold for us. I am quite familiar with people having contempt for me but I am not sure what you mean about 'hoax images'. Shirley you're not suggesting that the photo, a link to which I supplied, is a hoax? > If the holders of the new ideas won (unlikely) a new civilization would emerge based on contact with aliens. Since our most extrordinary, interplanetary visitors have been on earth for at least 6000 years, why would a new civilization emerge. Six thousand years old is hardly new. I know if I had been on planet for 6000 years and the resident idiots finally came to grips with my existence, I would say alright, that's it we're doing things my way from now on. Oh wait, I see what you mean. You mean it would be new to earthlings but not necessarily 'new'. Like when you buy a really sweet Partridge Family lunch box at a yard sale. > More recently a friend was shot and her brain mashed for "talking with aliens". . > A friend of mine was picked up by aliens and taken to a ship that orbited Jupiter and when she came back she was put in a psychiatric prison where she faced brain removal. How do they decide wether to remove a brain or simply mash it? Or does mashing require removal? > Another person I knew who worked in a bar was also picked up and worked in a bar in this ship. Wow! What are the odds of that? How many earth professions are readily transferrable to other planets or beings? I would say prostitute wouldn't work too well since you need the same parts but I'm guessing bartender, lawyer and side show barker. Everyone loves a good circus unless you get cheated out of your money and you have to sue the owner. Life is really weird. Merry ET-mas. Greg