----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard" : Well to be honest I'm guessing! My first camera was a Box Brownie in : around 1950, and yes, I still have it! No negatives sadly. ah-hah! we never forget our first do we :) : That was followed in 1959 by a nice Agfa Silette, no built in meter, : passed down from my Dad who had bought the said Praktica, an east German : import. I took over the Praktica after his death in 1960 so as this is : dated 1961.... The Practicas had a rotten name here, but treated gently they performed nicely - and they were a nice cheap backup body to a pentax too karl