but once it's out of beta it will be pricy and it should be free considering it is to protect their products from the holes they left in the program in the first place Terry L. Mair Mair's Photography 158 So. 580 East Midway' Ut. 84049 435-654-3607 Cell 801-358-5391 www.mairsphotography.com -----Original Message----- From: Howard <home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subj: Re: OT questions , was vista Date: Sun Feb 4, 2007 4:08 am Size: 881 bytes To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> microsoft has been Beta trialling a spyware program "Windows Defender" and it seems to work fairly well. I also has a combination set of programs from my ISP, ntlworld which seem very good. I did a complete scan yesterday using an independent malware scanner but nothing there. Howard PhotoRoy6@xxxxxxx wrote: > Use all the programs from the same company. If your with Norton go with > Norton's spy ware and firewall etc. > I used to use Norton but had AOL's McAfee firewall and one time upgrading > Norton virus definition windows XPstopped booting (actually it got to a point > and started reboot over and over again).. I switched every thing over to AOL ( > which is McAfee). because it was free. I have heard tha Microsoft now has a > spyware program and virus program too to go with it firewall but I don't know > if it is available to the public. > >