I use a Canon Digital Rebel 350 which I believe has similar noise qualities to the 10d. When I'm pushed to extremes I will shoot at 800 but it definitely requires a run through Neat Image to remove noise. 1600 is only for people who enjoy noise or for those fine art shots nobody but the artist understands. Greg Fraser http://home.golden.net/~fraserg I've been using the 10D at ISO 800 for a couple years now and not had any problems with noise (grain). Anyone have any experience with the 5D or 1Ds Mark II above ISO 800? (any comparison between the 10D and the others at any ISO?)