re 11 feb gallery From: "James B. Davis" me: if there's metadata in the image which can be stripped then the actual image may not need so much compression. :>: Sorry I do not intend to get some other program to try and squeeze in a >smaller JPG. Your image was different than mine. Mine had lots of detail and so >did not compress well. : I really don't care to do any more work than necessary to submit an image to the gallery. I like an image of about 800 by whatever, and I save it without colour space and I set the quality to 5, then check the size and lower the quality more if necessary. When I have to start lowering the quality below 5 to get to a 75K file, that just sucks ;-) : : I have at times been able to sneak the quality up to 8 or more, but that's when an image has less detail. : : I know it will be a long week of holding your breath, but next weekend you will get to see this masterpiece in all it's glory at a quality of 2 ;-) me: if there's metadata in the image which can be stripped then the actual image may not need so much compression. cool - I stripped 30kb of data from the image and it's still the same (I can send it to you can confirm that if you like) - as I said James, a stripping program can give you a greater quality, larger size and no image detail reduction.. that could have been 30k more image :-( stuff like this formed part of your image 'size': File: - C:\WINDOWS\Desktop\davis-2.jpg Make - Canon Model - Canon EOS 10D Orientation - Top left XResolution - 100.00 YResolution - 100.00 ResolutionUnit - Inch Software - Adobe Photoshop CS2 Windows DateTime - 2006:02:12 19:12:55 ExifOffset - 208 Artist - James B. Davis Copyright - Copyright 2005 by James B. Davis ExposureTime - 1/750 seconds FNumber - 8.00 ExposureProgram - Aperture priority ISOSpeedRatings - 400 ExifVersion - 0220 DateTimeOriginal - 2006:02:11 14:55:29 DateTimeDigitized - 2006:02:11 14:55:29 ComponentsConfiguration - YCbCr CompressedBitsPerPixel - 9 (bits/pixel) ShutterSpeedValue - 1/750 seconds ApertureValue - F 8.00 ExposureBiasValue - 0.00 MaxApertureValue - F 3.50 MeteringMode - Multi-segment Flash - Not fired FocalLength - 28 mm UserComment - FlashPixVersion - 0100 ColorSpace - Uncalibrated ExifImageWidth - 800 ExifImageHeight - 533 FocalPlaneXResolution - 3443.95 FocalPlaneYResolution - 3442.02 FocalPlaneResolutionUnit - Inch SensingMethod - One-chip color area sensor FileSource - DSC - Digital still camera CustomRendered - Normal process ExposureMode - Auto WhiteBalance - Manual SceneCaptureType - Standard k