:> Just buy Judy some clothes! :> :> Bpob :> Well her clothes have to be specially tailored for "Judy" and cost about $30. I have downloaded them and I'm learning how to dress her. Creating her was quite a performance (she is only a 3 D polygon after all) then posing her took a bit of time and then there was arranging and choosing the lighting to match the colour and quality, this last I'm just experimenting with. OK. There are other galleries where very complex computer generated images are discussed and most have no photography at all. Computer graphics are an art form like photography and photography is likely to evolve so that with a 3D camera people in the scene could be moved if the original image was not as desired, this is only a step or two more than present manipulation, so not much different. Photographic techniques are involved, like placing lights and the camera, selecting aperture, focal length and shutter speed. These are best learned in a real studio, but computer simulations are really much cheaper. Computer simulated models are much cheaper and more compliant than real ones and I have seen several commercial advertising images where these models are used in place of the real thing. Now I know the limitations of simulated models I can sometimes recognise where they have been used. This will soon become impossible as the graphic becomes indistinguishable from reality. Virtual reality is now so good that people have been fooled into thinking that they've really been to Mars! You can get very disoriented by virtual reality. However the consensus is that I should desist in my computer graphics for this forum and I'll try to remember to abide by that rule in future. I'll send another (real) photo for next week shortly to replace the totally computer generated graphic I've just sent, even though the model I "created" has been described as "gorgeous" by my friends. Chris.