Hi Alan, Please note that I was not taking a negative attitude about the new art forms and artists. Of course permenance of a song, a photograph, a sphinx is all different. The memento can be a reminder but it is not the installation or performance itself. A live concert is different than a CD, even a CD of the live concert. Anyhow, we seem to be drifting apart from photography and going into different artforms, etc. I wonder if listmembers or Andy would prefer to keep the subject more on photography. Cheers, Veli Izzet > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > lookaround360@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 4:04 PM > To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students > Subject: RE: My thoughts about art&craft (RE: PF Galleries on > 05 FEB 05) > > Veli, > If you are referring to artist's attitudes about posterity - > artists I know (besides up-tight photographers) seem to apply > different standards of permanence to each work. Above all, > the owner of the work has a responsibility to preserve > whatever medium is used. I have many pieces that I know must > not be displayed in bright light, high humidity, and where > they can be eaten by vermin. > > Installation artists can make mementos of the work to sell to > finance their activities - Cristo is a notable example in the news > > http://www.walknyc.com/ > > > AZ > > Build a Lookaround! > The Lookaround Book, 2nd ed. > NOW SHIPPING > http://www.panoramacamera.us > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: RE: My thoughts about art&craft (RE: PF Galleries on 05 FEB > > 05) > > From: "Veli Izzet Cigirgan" <izzet@xxxxxxxx> > > Date: Tue, February 08, 2005 12:55 am > > To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students" > > <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Hi all, > > > > On the life expectancy of artwork: What would you say about new > > artforms like installations or live performances? > > > > Cheers, > > Veli Izzet > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Terry > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 3:45 AM > > > To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students > > > Subject: Re: My thoughts about art&craft (RE: PF Galleries on > > > 05 FEB 05) > > > > > > There used to be two well known artists here in this little town, > > > one moved away and now Robert Duncan is left alone, anyway the > > > "Other" artist was questioned one day about why he used > paints that > > > where proven to not last 100 years, his comment, "I don't > care, I'll > > > be gone in 100 years" so let the buyer be ware. > > > Terry M > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <lookaround360@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students" > > > <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 6:08 PM > > > Subject: RE: My thoughts about art&craft (RE: PF Galleries on > > > 05 FEB 05) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karl, > > > > > > > > That's what keeps art conservators in business. There have > > > been lots > > > > of important artists including Leonardo ( "The Last > > > Supper") who made > > > > mistakes or didn't care about how long their work lasted. Us > > > > photographers are the real nuts about that. Over the ages > > > many of our > > > > most revered artists couldn't afford good materials. > Mixed media > > > > on any free surface - shirt cardboards! - is common. > > > > I think the art buyer should have enough savvy about > this to care > > > > properly for the work. It's simple enough to ask the > artist about > > > > their media. If they lie, then get a lawyer. > > > > > > > > AZ > > > > > > > > Build a Lookaround! > > > > The Lookaround Book, 2nd ed. > > > > NOW SHIPPING > > > > http://www.panoramacamera.us > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> -------- Original Message -------- > > > >> Subject: Re: My thoughts about art&craft (RE: PF Galleries > > > on 05 FEB > > > >> 05) > > > >> From: "karl shah-jenner" <shahjen@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >> Date: Mon, February 07, 2005 7:41 pm > > > >> To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals > - Students" > > > >> <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >> > > > >> Alan writes: > > > >> <clipped> > > > >> The artist is quite old and has seen a few things. > > > >> : He's self taught, knows what he wants to do with the > > > materials he > > > >> uses > > > >> : for his constructions and mixed-media painting and is > > > still trying > > > >> new > > > >> : ideas. > > > >> > > > >> thanks Alan > > > >> > > > >> I met a restorative artist once who showed me a wall sized > > > painting > > > >> done by a painter who in his day was seen as an up and comer - > > > >> the restorer was depressed as the creator of the expensive art > > > piece had > > > >> mixed his paint media with such abandon that some ten > > > years after it > > > >> was painted, the paint was cascading off in sheets. the owner > > > >> was furious and the artist refused to accept any > > > responsibility, but the > > > >> crafting of the painting was apparently very poor. > > > >> > > > >> art without the skill seems somehow anachronistic. > > > >> k > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> - forget living in a 'tolerant' world, what about trying for a > > > >> respectful world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: > > > 07.02.2005 > > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 07.02.2005 > >
