----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Talbot" <BobTalbot@st-abbs.fsnet.co.uk> I totally agree with everything you have said. I never said jpegs were as good as saving the images as tiffs or raw. When I am doing portraits I could get away with using raw since it doesn't take forever to write and it does give a slighly smaller file than a tif. Again remember I am shooting performers who pose well and are usually very anitmated. This isn't a smile and say cheese sort of photo sitting. So I can't wait forever for the camera to write to the card. When I am shooting a show I need to have not only speed but a large capacity storage media. I usually shoot close to 250-275 shots of s two act stage show. This is why I need to shoot in Super High Quality Jpegs. 2240x1680 and either 1/2.7 or 1/4 compression. I can usually get about 90 or 120 shots on a 256 mgb card depending on the compression. I always have three cards available. If I had the money for a camera that would let me shoot rapidly and have the storage for saving raw or tif's I would do it. What I was getting really ticked off about was I felt like we were driting towards the old argument of medium format vrs 35mm. You know..... 35 mm (jpegs) are ok for snap shots but you have to use medium or large format (tif's or raw) to do serious work. I am not arguing that raw or tifs are not better than jpegs. Just don't tell me that I can't produce a quality product with a properly exposed jpeg. Every article/book I have ever read on digital has told me the same thing.... "Don't shoot with the idea of fixing it in PS, get it right when you do the original photo." And that takes us back to my original posting.......................... I was asking what I was doing wrong............. I wan't blaming the camera or the format or the lights. I knew that I had done something wrong I knew I could fix it in PS......... But I would rather not have it happen again! Hey and lets all keep smiling here........ We're all having fun..... Right? Hey I just fed the Cats and they are Fat and Happy! Russ R.E. Baker Photography rebphoto@pronetisp.net