>The history of photography would be completely different if this was the >advice they received and followed. Millions of images would never be shot >or viewed, and we would be left with a hole when it comes to photos that >show how we live when we aren't posing. Some things just aren't in those >posed (or even "permissioned") photos. I wrote out a whole bunch of junk about street photography, and it took forever and still I couldn't get it right so I deleted it all and I just want to say that I personally don't like disturbing or stealing pieces of people's lives while hiding from them. But that's my style. But you're right there's some excellent street shots that document our history and are truly great art. I guess it's a dirty job, but someone's got to do it. And I'd say that's one of the reasons I like to shoot nature, or birds. Although I can tell the birds know I'm here sometimes,( they look straight at me and reacte to any sounds I make,) but they easily go back to their blissful existance, totally candid immediately and before my eyes. Still, sometimes I feel like I'm exploiting them, just keeping them from their business of surviving, catching the next fish. All of photography has this element of theft to some extent, does it not? I guess I'm just a very shy photographer. I have taken the odd street photo I must admit. Sometimes there's just lots of cameras clicking around me, I can hide in the multitude of photographing people and steal my own slices of life. And so the ultra wide angle enables the street shooter to shoot while his subject has no idea he's in the frame at all. heh heh Jim Davis Nature Photography http://www.kjsl.com/~jbdavis/