Thanks, that is very kind. I doubt if I'll be coming shortly though. My cousin-in-law makes it to SF more than yearly and plays in a rock band there as a base player. Sorry, but I don't know the band but his name is "Peter Clancy". I understand he was in a band of his own several years ago about when he married my cousin, Linda. Their children are all off to their own lives now and we have or are expecting grandchildren for them. I've always been afraid of flying and when an airliner I was in over the North Sea went down (I was the survivor) I've been too afraid to fly again. We were coming to the USA on 9/11 but the flight was cancelled.... We had wanted to come on Concord but they were grounded.... I feel there is a message somewhere here. :).. Now my Mum who had wanted to see America before she died is 90 and loosing her fight for life. Much of the money has been spent and we are in debt. I can't see us ever having another opportunity to go. We've hardly ever travelled as we are not rich enough. It is a sad, tragic thing, being human. Life can be very harsh. We've only got one go... Hopefully we live at the beginning of a long period of stability and peace with America being a force for good. Meanwhile - back to photography. I've just offered my last film camera for commission sale at the local camera dealer, my two cameras are both digital. This is the way now. Digital is the way of the present. I'm hoping to go to "Focus on Imaging" at Birmingham on Monday (Terrorists permitting) and view the latest technology. I held an S2 a couple of years ago at the show and they might have the latest 16MPix cameras on display this year - not that I can afford one! I fellow photographer came to London from SF a few years ago (I met him on the net) and we had a long chat on digital. Things have moved on a lot since then. Chris http://www.chrissdomain.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-photoforum@listserver.isc.rit.edu [mailto:owner-photoforum@listserver.isc.rit.edu]On Behalf Of Stephen Ylvisaker Sent: 22 February 2003 19:36 To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students Subject: Re: Londoner in San Francisco On 2/22/03 6:26 AM, "Chris" <nimbo@ukonline.co.uk> wrote: > I think we can close this thread now. I'm satisfied that I'm no more likely > to get shot in the US than my home town of London. > > Chris > http://www.chrissdomain.com Glad you came to that conclusion, Chris, because it is the correct one. It is unfortunate that a few would choose to accept the sensationalism of the news media, and believe that there is a wrongful death on every street corner every day of the week. Bad news sells, so the media look every bit of bad news they can find, when the truth is generally not that way. When might you be in the Bay Area, Chris? At the moment I'm speaking for myself, but I think some of the other Bay Area residents of the list would want to join us. I would like to arrange an evening, or midday, to meet and treat you to a meal and perhaps a couple pints. -- Stephen Ylvisaker greyfell@gns2000.com "Never do business with pets you don't trust." Robert Kiyosaki, author of RICH DAD, POOR DAD