At 03:16 PM 12/13/2002 +0900, you wrote: >Rob Miracle <rwm@photo-miracles.com> writes: >[only slightly out of context] >> I could never consciously sell a ink jet print. When >> you hear about inkjets lasting a long time, thats only if they are framed >> behind UV glass or in an album in a dark place and away from airborne >> contaminants. > >I have put vanishingly litte effort into working out how to make prints. >I have an HP deskjet 930c printer, and simply printing on plain (A4) paper >makes a quite reasonable print for me to look at, and I had one of them >pinned to the wall by my desk for months without anything obvious >changing. So I thought, I'll buy some of this fancy 'photo' paper; >it looks much nicer, but leave a print exposed to daylight (not direct >sunlight), and within 10 days it's fading, in a month it's more or less >gone. Is there something incredibly elementary that I have missed? > > >Brian Chandler >---------------- >geo://Sano.Japan.Planet_3 >Jigsaw puzzles from Japan at: >http://imaginatorium.org/shop/ > > Brian, Why have some of the color snaps in my old family album turned a pale cyan/yellow while others look fine? Rhetorical question, don't answer :-) The reason I don't trust ANY claims for permanence is that the paper and inks are continuously being revised. Paper coatings seem to have a big effect on the inks. I made sunlight exposure tests on the limited range of materials I regularly use and determined which ones seem stable. So have other printers I trust. As soon as the paper or ink manufacturer tweaks their formula, which they do all the time, all bets are off. A friend of mine recently had the "latest and greatest" ink and paper combo turn a hideous lime-color when he dry mounted it. Neither of us had experienced that before. I trust that certain combinations will last and have no ethical qualms about sales - I label all prints "carbon pigment ink jet print on archival paper." That is more than my painter and art-print friends do on their stuff! BTW - HP black inks fade like crazy even in dark storage. AZ Build a Lookaround! The Lookaround Book. http://www.panoramacamera.us