> Monday I am to be one of three "judges" at a local photo club so I thought > it might be a good idea to do a practice run with the PF exhibt photos! Well, the difference of course is that at the local photo club you will no doubt be expected to judge solely on "pictorialism". > Bob Talbot, Historical Artefact - I don't get it. Well, while you are practising for your camera club judging session ... there is no way I would put an image like this in a competition ... ;o) This image is just one of a sequence of 5 linked by the fact that they were on the order shown on the same film. Euston Station this week finishes the series ... >Whatever "it" is. In general Need there be a point or can the absurdity of a situation not speak for itself on occasion ? There is absurdity in great measure ... > I personally think that making photographs in museums is extremely difficult if > the photograph is to have greater interest than that of a record shot. Are you implying incompetance? Surely not. the image is *exactly* how I intended to show it! ;x) But, v-a-v your judging session ... if someone presents you with a straight record of a museum artefact (or any other statue) then that is indeed the sort of commentary that the audience would expect to preceed a low mark ... > Including the P&S camera does not raise this photo to a level that would make > one (me) want to consider it a significant record photo I think it was yourself that pointed out to me over 3 years ago that the gallery is not just about pictorialism. It is about education. I have learned much about "photography" as a whole over the years from seeing it and pondering the images. For your camera club stint you are unlikely to meet anything challenging and chances are there is no level to the images besides themselves. What I have learned here is that "street" images and PJ images carry another level. It is that they have a message (maybe, sometimes not) or that they reflect just a moment In a picture of an historical artefact I have deliberately included something that was mass produced by the thousands. But what is historical? The bust is just a lump of chiselled rock - one of hundreds of thousands of similar things surviving today. Little is known about the specific item apart from where it came from. Ultimately though it is just stone. The camera ... modern and plastic. Who on earth would get attached to that? But it has a story ... or maybe not. >or a long-lasting > landscape photo like Janine's. Pretty-pretty can become boring-boring after a while. When you attend enough photo clubs you start to have seen the images before. There are very few that hit you in a way to make you see them as different. As photo galleries go the PF one stands out as a place where I remember images from. It does not always mean I have liked them, but I remember them ... Bob Phew ... and I didn't mention the unmentionable ...