Geg, You are being completely unfair. John's work speaks for itself. check it out at http://www.mason.com no no no try http://www.johnmason.com darn... John, can you help us out here? r Gregory Fraser wrote: > I began to read John's critique of Jeff's web page but found it to be a > little extreme. Then I got bored and boiled up a bag of elbow macaroni and > hastily build an inverted scale model of the Sistine Chapel then passed out > and never got to the nasty bit at the end of John's post. > > Greg Fraser > London, Ontario Canada > http://www.geocities.com/fraserg1962 > > >