On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 9:04 PM Mladen Gogala <gogala.mladen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > What angered me was the presumptuous tone of voice directed to an Oracle > legend. I have probably talked to many more Oracle people than you, > including Tanel, whom I have met personally. I am not on Twitter, > unfortunately I am older than 20. Before you ask, I am not on Instagram, > Facebook or Tiktok. I am not on OnlyFans either. I have never understood > the need to share one's every thought in real time. Being rather private > person has probably stymied my career of an internet influencer. I'll > never rival Kim Kardashian. You do seem shy. > As for Jeff Holt, I believe that a person of his stature needs to be > taken seriously and not lectured "how are things done in Postgres > community". I haven't met Jeff Holt either, but I believe that he is also older than 20. I have to imagine that he doesn't particularly need you to defend his honor. > I am rather confused by the thinly veiled hostility toward > Oracle. In my opinion, Postgres community should be rather welcoming to > Oracle people like Frits Hoogland, Frank Pachot or Jeff Holt. After all, > we are using Postgres and telling us "you can't have what you used to > get from Oracle" is not either encouraging or smart. I agree with all that. I am also friendly with Frank, as it happens. I think that Laurenze was just trying to establish common terms of reference for discussion -- it's easy for two groups of people with similar but different terminology to talk past each other. For example, I think that there may be confusion about what is possible with a tool like eBPF today, and what might be possible in an ideal world. -- Peter Geoghegan
