Hi! On 10:06 Tue 13 Oct , Peter Teoh wrote: > yes, i am confused too.....look at this: > > http://source.android.com/posts/opensource > > which clearly says that is open-source. and it is a "full-stack", > the bottom layer being the linux kernel (which is described in > detailed diagram here: > > http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html > > take a look. any hardware which can run linux kernel, will have android. > > in general.....any legal aspect is out of our scope here (i am not > legally trained)...but open-source in the sense all the source codes > are available :-). so yes, almost any source code is Legally, you can call it open source. But what I am saying is that it is not open source in the way people expect it: - Devices are crippled locked down so. - Large parts are not GPL/copyleft, but Apache license. The goal is most likely to empower proprierary vendors to do what they like. - It is lead mostly by a single company and some who followed, not by a community. - Lots of applications are proprierary. You cannot run the usual Linux applications, as long as they are not completely rewritten. - There is a real comminity effort called openmoko. > available....unless u run commercial applications like Oracle on it??? > nothing to say then :-)...... No, but does having a BSD kernel make Apple's "OS X" open source? -Michi -- programing a layer 3+4 network protocol for mesh networks see http://michaelblizek.twilightparadox.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send an email with "unsubscribe kernelnewbies" to ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxx Please read the FAQ at http://kernelnewbies.org/FAQ