Hi all We have a load balanced set of web servers (behind an alteon AD3) which all work fine - except when the real servers (the webserver instances on the load balanced machines) try to access the virtual ip (vip) on the alteon. Here's how it works clientIP=AA VIP=BB RealServerIP=CC SourceIP=sip DestinationIP=dip The vip and real_server ips are all on the same network. # client request from the outside (client) -> (vip) - sip=AA, dip=BB (vip) -> (real_server) - sip=AA, dip=CC # return traffic (real server on CC responds to client on AA) (real_server) -- sip=CC, dip=AA --> (alteon) -- sip=BB, dip=AA --> client So the alteon substitutes the virtual server ip with the real server one and back again for the load balancing to work. Now the problem, we need the real servers to be able to access the service provided on the VIP also. The ports on the alteon are configured properly (client and server enable and so on) but the problem seems to be a routing one. Here's the flow of traffic when the real server tries to access the vip # client request (client) -> (vip) - sip=CC, dip=BB (vip) -> (real_server) - sip=CC, dip=CC # return traffic (real server on CC responds to client on CC - oops that's me) (real_server) -- sip=CC, dip=CC --> straight back to the real server, no dice. Now this is a common problem, usually solved by using proxy-ips, however the alteon proxy-ips don't add X-Forwarded-For headers meaning our servers won't get the correct client IPs - which is unacceptable. I have been trying to find a way to mangle the packets with iptables (on the real servers) to make this work. The obvious (well...kinda obvious) way is to change the sip (to something outside the local network) on the incoming packet somewhere in the PREROUTING or INPUT phase, then modify the dip in the response packet in the POSTROUTING phase back to that of the real server. Unfortunately this is pretty much the reverse of what DNAT and SNAT are used for. We want SNAT on the PREROUTING or INPUT phase and DNAT in the POSTROUTING (or possibly OUTPUT, but I don't think so) one. Or perhaps - is there any way to force traffic from one IP to the same IP to go through a remote router? Perhaps mark traffic from the real server to the vip then act on that mark when the alteon directs it back? Can anyone offer any ideas how to solve this issue? Many thanks Admin