I belive you cant Mangle Packets as well on PIX Firewall Such as TTL Values & MSS Clamps, here are some things on why i consider netfilter over any other product for now .. 1) its easy to understand & it works well 2) Completely Open Source Project 3) Using the help from www.lartc.org QoS can be seamlessly intergrated 4) Squid + Netfilter also offers more advantages like Speedy Web Cache & ACL Rules to Block ADs ect, 5) IPTState is a good utillity for showing your Connections Through & Too your netfilter firewall 6) IPTables Allows you to set Variables for its ip_conntrack_helpers such as ftp & irc like, the Default Port No: to track is 21 this can be changed to Many or Just One using sysctrl options 7) Kernel Level Networking & Filtering /w Linux .. have you got a problem, well if your good enough you can make changes to your kernel / modules that will improve / manipulate the way your IP V4 Box works. hope this helps a bit, Hard__warE