Re: Nokia: Linux Needs to Learn Business

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On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Igor Stoppa <igor.stoppa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 14:30 -0600, ext Mark wrote:
>
>> What he *really* means is "until we accept their statements at face
>> value with no questions". "Learning" is the very last thing they want
>> us to do, because that means the acquisition of knowledge. They don't
>> want us to know what's really going on, they want us to accept things
>> as they are. There's a huge difference.
>
> Even if I've never met you, I can't help immaging you wearing a tinfoil
> hat while you are writing these words. A bit paranoid, aren't they?

Disillusioned and realistic are much more accurate descriptions.
Gullible would be very descriptive of you. Not to mention
inflammatory.

It's really easy to discount someone by labeling them as crazy or
"paranoid" when you have nothing to actually refute their arguments.

>
> Speeches can be unclear and/or misunderstood.
>
> I suggest instead you check the percentage of closed source sw in the
> tablets over time: it has been shrinking significantly.
>

Have you ever heard the Benjamin Disraeli quote, "There are three
kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics"? There was never a
truer statement.

Implicit in your statement is that the number of open apps has
increased, thereby increasing the percentage of open software, but
your statistic is intended to cover up the fact that the amount of
closed software hasn't changed. What's more, the closed stuff is the
most fundamental stuff, which means there is a very definite and
restrictive limit to the kinds of things the open source people can
do.

> And you could also take a look at the name and numbers of open source
> projects supported and financed in the process of creating the sw stack
> for the tablets.
>

Irrelevant for the above-stated reasons. This also falls under the
category of "token gesture".

> Of course the situation is not perfect, but it has been improving
> steadily and there is work ongoing to continue improving it.
>
> Then it's your choice to believe to facts or not.
>
> --
> Cheers, Igor
>
> ---
>
> Igor Stoppa
> Nokia Devices R&D - Helsinki
>

Don't get me wrong; the community has already done amazing things with
the little it's been given. They deserve nothing but acclaim for their
efforts. Many thanks to them all!

Mark
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