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Re: wireless-testing commit eb9d4e8399181357cb6f6625ba7f849987432c6c causes stalls

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On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 12:30 AM, Johannes Berg
<johannes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 00:26 -0800, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
>
>> >> What should we do with these rare failures then?
>> >
>> > print an error message? ignore them? try again?
>>
>> I'd prefer a simple error print than a WARN_ON().
>
> Just so you don't get blamed on kerneloops.org? :)

No because like I said a hw reset can fail and don't think software
should be blamed. Right now we do that.

>> >> > hw borked is one obvious case, but it shouldn't happen enough
>> >> > for this to be a problem yet.
>> >>
>> >> This I agree with. It is rare, its just possible, right now mac80211
>> >> assumes it never will.
>> >
>> > It's _always_ assumed that by ignoring the return value, now it's just
>> > noisy about it because clearly it doesn't like when the driver fails to
>> > do what it wants since then the hw and sw states get out of sync. I
>> > really don't see what to do other than retry maybe, but that might well
>> > be done in the driver instead.
>>
>> As can be seen from the patch suggested what some drivers will end up
>> doing is just ignoring failures but I guess that can be up to the
>> drivers to deal with as you are suggesting. I'd be inclined to try to
>> disable the device in case of a few failed resets to be specific with
>> ath5k. Would mac80211 want to be informed of that through the return
>> value? Is the WARN still appropriate?
>
> I think the warning is appropriate, yes, since mac80211 has no concept
> of failing hardware configuration. You're free to add such a concept,
> but I really don't know what mac80211 would be supposed to do when
> things fail, just try to stop/start? panic()? Instruct the user to
> reboot? to swap hardware? See?

Sure, OK then the error will be "deal with".

  Luis
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