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Re: wireless-testing commit eb9d4e8399181357cb6f6625ba7f849987432c6c causes stalls

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On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Johannes Berg
<johannes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 00:01 -0800, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
>
>> > But you're saying it's "normal" to get this failure,
>>
>> No, I'm just sayings its possible, right now mac80211 assumes its not
>> and if it does its because we somehow lied to mac80211 of our
>> capabilities.
>
> Well, yes, sort of.
>
>> > so wouldn't it
>> > always do that sooner or later and always say your hw is broken?
>>
>> Nope
>
> Why not?
>
>> > Also,
>> > that's a bad thing to do in userspace, imho.
>>
>> What should we do with these rare failures then?
>
> print an error message? ignore them? try again?

I'd prefer a simple error print than a WARN_ON().

>> > hw borked is one obvious case, but it shouldn't happen enough
>> > for this to be a problem yet.
>>
>> This I agree with. It is rare, its just possible, right now mac80211
>> assumes it never will.
>
> It's _always_ assumed that by ignoring the return value, now it's just
> noisy about it because clearly it doesn't like when the driver fails to
> do what it wants since then the hw and sw states get out of sync. I
> really don't see what to do other than retry maybe, but that might well
> be done in the driver instead.

As can be seen from the patch suggested what some drivers will end up
doing is just ignoring failures but I guess that can be up to the
drivers to deal with as you are suggesting. I'd be inclined to try to
disable the device in case of a few failed resets to be specific with
ath5k. Would mac80211 want to be informed of that through the return
value? Is the WARN still appropriate?

  Luis
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