On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 11:27:43AM +0200, Willem van der Walt wrote: > Hi, > I see that you will have to get the antiX deb as it is specially built for > it. > Many upstream core Debian packages have been rebuilt to remove a hard > dependency on libsystemd0/libelogind0 > These include apt, cups, dbus, gvfs, openssh, policykit-1, procps, > pulseaudio, rpcbind, rsyslog, samba, sane-backends, > udisks2, util-linux, webkit2gtk and xorg-server I've had a look at the antiX about page, and they say they're systemd free. This means they're either a derivative of devuan, or are rolling their own distro deriving from debian directly. On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 10:06:00AM -0500, K0LNY_Glenn wrote: > The file I downloaded was: > espeak-ng_1.49.2+dfsg-8+deb10u1.debian.tar.xz > Looking in the archive, there are some .install files, but I didn't find any > .sh files, so I don't know which file to use to get espeak installed on this > system. > Or if there is a .deb for RhVoice, that would work too, but did I download > the wrong espeak-ng file for installing it? You downloaded the source package, not the binary package. The binary package ends with a .deb extension. The easiest way to download what you need is with aptitude download package_name from a debian buster box. However, see Willem's comments to which I replied above. On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 12:42:05PM -0500, K0LNY_Glenn wrote: > I want to get my old Asus Epc 701 with 2 GB of RAM going, hopefully to put > some Ham software on it. > It used to use XP. > I wanted to try the talking Arch I downloaded, but it cannot boot that > kernel, and I didn't know where an older one is. Is there a specific reason why that machine needs an older kernel? The new kernels should still support most older hardware. If you want a light weight distribution without systemd, try devuan: <http://www.devuan.org> If you want to first see if it will run on your older hardware, grab a minimal live iso for i386 or amd64 from: <https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/devuan/devuan_chimaera/minimal-live/> and dd it to a usb stick, or burn cd media. I just ran it on a pentium II box with 700MB of RAM to make sure I'm giving you correct instructions, and it came up fine for me without problems. 1. Boot from your media. If you have a PC speaker, you'll hear a long beep. When you do, press <enter> or just wait. If you're booting from CD, you'll hear your drive spin. It took about five minutes on my i686 box with 700MB of RAM, so be patient. 2. Once it finishes booting, you'll hear a melody if you have a PC speaker. Wait about 30 seconds from that point. If you're booting from a CD, wait for your drive to stop spinning, and give it about ten seconds. If you're booting from USB media, just give it plenty of time, maybe ten minutes from booting. 3. You should be at a login prompt, so type root <enter> toor <enter>. If the login was successful, you'll hear a short beep if you have a PC speaker. 4. Type the following: modprobe speakup_soft <enter> service espeakup start <enter> If all went well, you should hear "root@devuan." Test it out, make sure it works fine with your hardware. If it does, download the netinstall iso from: <https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/devuan/devuan_chimaera/installer-iso/> for i386 or amd64. Devuan is based on debian's installer, so the install procedure for debian is the same for devuan. Boot, press s <enter>, and you should get software speech asking you to select a language for the installation. I'm running a text only devuan 4.0 install right now on a 32-bit virtual machine with 512MB of RAM. With 2GB, you should also be able to run the mate desktop, though I don't know how snappy it will be. Good luck. Greg -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts. -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@xxxxxx