Re: hopefully some help with AntiX

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Hi Glenn,
I think you should use nc.
I will send you detailed instructions tomorrow.
Regards, Willem


On Fri, 26 Aug 2022, K0LNY_Glenn wrote:

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Hi Brian,
The trouble is that I cannot SCP because I cannot SSH into it.
It has audio, and I can use apt, but AntiX has its own limited repository.
It has something I think it was called apt-antiX or something, but it is
menu driven, and that does not work with OCR on the screen.
So it seems fast and viable, but I cannot get anything into it.
If I put stuff on a thumb drive and plugged it in, without speech output, I
couldn't possibly get all guesses needed to find the device in /media/demo.
Thanks though.

Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Buhrow" <buhrow@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "K0LNY_Glenn" <glenn@ervin.email>; "Chime Hart"
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Cc: "Willem van der Walt" <wvdwalt@xxxxxxxxxx>; "Speakup is a screen review
system for Linux." <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <buhrow@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: hopefully some help with AntiX


Hello Glen.  Here are a couple of suggestions to try and figure out what's
going on.

It sounds like the machine you're installing is up and running to some
extent, i.e. you believe
it has enough network to go out and download packages from repositories.
If that's true, then I suggest building yourself a data file on the machine
about its
state and then scp it back to your working machine for post mortom analysis.
In this way, you
can be smarter about what's really going on with it rather than just trying
our suggestions and
getting more and more frustrated.

Depending on the state of the machine, there are a couple of ways to
approach this task.

1.  If you have the script command installed,
I suggest:
cd /tmp
script

Then, do a dump of the dmesg output of the machine, a dump of a list of
packages on the
machine, a dump of the network configuration on the machine, using such
commands as ifconfig
and netstat, (if this is Ubuntu based, there's a command that replaces
netstat that I don't
remember off the top of my head.)

The script command will capture your commands, and the output they generate,
into a file called
typescript in the current directory (/tmp above).  When you've collected a
bunch of data, exit
the shell you started with the script command and scp the file "typescript"
back to your
working installed machine and look it over.  Keep in mind there will be some
portions of it
that will look like giberish because it captures all the terminal escape
sequences to format
the screen as well, but it will give you a lot more knowledge about what is
going on.  Also, it
will tell you which commands worked and which didn't, and why.

You may need to repeat this process of collecting a script file from the
machine several times,
using the knowledge you gained from the last round, to try more informed
commands.

2.  If the script command is not available, then create your own
approximation of the script
command by doing the following:

cd /tmp
touch typescript
dmesg >> typescript 2>&1
. . .

Repeat commands, followed by >> typescript 2>&1

over and over again, as described above, to dump the output of both standard
out and standard
error (path for error messages) into your hand made typescript file.

When you have collected enough initial data to try doing an analysis, scp
the typescript file
back to your working machine and have a look at it.

Keep in mind that when you reboot the Antics machine, the /tmp/typescript
file will be erased.

My apologies for not being familiar with the aptitude commands to give you
examples of how to
get package listings from the machine directly.

Although, dumping the output of
aptitude --help >> /tmp/typescript 2>&1
into your typescript file should give you pretty good directions on how to
use it.

Hope this helps.

-Brian







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