I can make speakup crash the kernel every time, by doing speakup-r from a blank line. John G. Heim <jheim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hmmm... I don't know. I have to say that I remain unconvinced. I've > never seen speakup cause a kernel panic. On the other hand, I have > witnessed the false cause effect. Something happens that causes a > kernel panic and since speakup is part of the kernel, it naturally has > problems. You were on a development server, right? Isn't it more > likely that one of the developers crashed the server amd that, in > turn, caused problems for speakup? I run some development servers here > at the UW math department and it happens all the time. Somebody causes > an OOM (out of memory) event and, yes, that crashes speakup. > > I once asked on the kernel developers list for comments on what's > wrong with the speakup code. There is that one biggie, of course, > speakup writes directly to the serial port. But all the other > criticisms were things like not following naming conventions, poor > indentation, etc. Maybe the people who mattered didn't bother to > answer my question. But there wasn't anything in there that would tend > to indicate that speakup is prone to causing kernel panics. Now, any > software package can have a bug. But I have no reason to believe that > speakup is particularly unstable. Quite the contrary in fact. > > And even if there is a bug in speakup that can cause a kernel panic, > that's an argument for finding the bug and fixing it. Not for > abandoning it entirely. > > > > On 10/09/14 08:34, Deedra Waters wrote: > > Janina, > > > > speakup was the cause because when bossman came down to hook up a > > monitor and look, the panick messages had something to do with speakup. > > > > As for backing up their work, they were trying to fix their fuck-up to > > begin with. The initial problem wasn't with speakup. However when i was > > helping them debug it, speakup made the kernel panick and crash. > > > > Debian i dont think likes people with root access on their box to begin > > with, but i think they kind of didn't like speakup in their kernel to > > begin with. > > > > I suspect on the other hand that if speakup was a user-space app, it > > wouldn't have mattered to them so much. If a userspace program crashes > > it doesn't take down the whole box. When speakup does though, it takes > > down the whole box. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
