Actually, i had left a couple months later to take a different job so it did work out. it was rare that i actually needed speakup in that environment as we'd started moving our machines to let clients admin them through things like serial consoles and so on. i believe in one case we had a couple machines hooked into one using a serial console clients or we would ssh into said machine and from there telnet into $machinethatneedsmaintenence and it all worked out. -- Website: http://deedra.the-brannons.com blog: http://deedra.the-brannons.com/blog _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup