hello. that's a powerful story and I certainly understand Oregon State's position about not wanting Speakup in the kernels of their production servers. I can't tell from your story, but I hope you were able to come to a compromise where they were willing to have you do sysadmin work on their servers, but you agreed to be willing to work on machines without Speakup in the kernel. As a Unix admin who is blind, I can tell you I've never worked with Linux kernels with Speakup on them in a production environment, and I wouldn't want to, however, I feel perfectly competent to build Linux machines and get them working reliably without having to have Speakup in the final production version of the system. Most servers are accessed through the network and Speakup on them directly affords, in my view, very little benefit but carries a lot of risk. However, as I said earlier, I hope for your sake, you were able to roll with their position and continue providing valuable service, as well as gaining valuable experience, despite the absence of Speakup. -thanks -Brian On Oct 8, 4:16pm, Deedra Waters wrote: } Subject: a little sysadmin story } IGkgd2FzIHdvcmtpbmcgYXQgb3JlZ29uIHN0YXRlJ3Mgb3BlbiBzb3VyY2UgbGFiIGFuZCBuZXR3 } b3JrIGFkbWluCnRoaW5nIGZvciBhIHllYXIgYW5kIGEgaGFsZi4gSGVyZSdzIG9uZSBzaXR1YXRp } b24uICBpIGNhbWUgYWNyb3NzLiBOb3QKdHJ5aW5nIHRvIGFudGFnb25pemUgYW55b25lIGF0IGFs } bCBidXQgaGVyZSdzIHdoYXQgaGFwcGVuZWQgYW5kIHRoaXMgaXMKb25lIHJlYXNvbiB3aHkgaSBk } aXNsaWtlIHNwZWFrdXAgaW4gdGhlIGtlcm5lbCBldmVuIHRob3VnaCBpdCdzIGdvdCBhCmxvdCBv } ZiBiZW5pZml0cy4uLi4uQW55d2F5Li4uLi4uCgpJIHdhcyB3b3JraW5nIGF0IHRoZSBsYWIuIERl } YmlhbiB3YXMgaGF2aW5nIGEgcHJvYmxlbSB3aXRoIG9uZSBvZiB0aGVpcgpteSBtYWNoaW5lcy4g } VGhlIG1hY2hpbmUgaGFkIGNyYXNoZWQgc28gaSB3ZW50IHRvIHRoZSBkbXogdG8ga2ljayBpdCBh } bmQKdHJ5IGFuZCBoZWxwIHRoZW0gZmlndXJlIG91dCB0aGVpciBwcm9ibGVtLiBXZSB3ZXJlIGhh } cHBpbHkgd29ya2luZyBvbgp0aGUgYm94IGFuIGhvdXIgb3Igc28gbGF0ZXIgd2hlbiBpIGhpdCBh } IHNwZWFrdXAgYnVnLiBUaGUga2VybmVsCnBhbmlja2VkLCBhbmQgdGhlIGJveCBjcmFzaGVkLiAk } ZGViaWFuZGV2ZWxvcGVyIGxvc3QgdGhlaXIgY2hhbmdlcyB0bwpzb21lIGNvbmZpZyBmaWxlcy4g } VGhlIGVuZCByZXN1bHQgd2FzIHRoZSBsYWIgbG9zdCB0aGVpciBhY2Nlc3MgdG8gdGhlCmRlYmlh } biBtYWNoaW5lLiBJIGhhZCBhIHNpbWlsYXIgcHJvYmxlbSBvbiBhbm90aGVyIGNsaWVudCdzIGJv } eC4gZW5kCnJlc3VsdCwgdGhleSBmbGlwcGVkIGhhZCBzcGVha3VwIHB1bGxlZCBmcm9tIHRoZWly } IGtlcm5lbHMgYW5kIGkgd2Fzbid0CmFsbG93ZWQgdG8gd29yayBvbiB0aGVpciBib3hlcy4KClRo } aXMgaXMgYW4gZXh0cmVtZSBjYXNlLCBidXQgaXQncyBhbHNvIGFuIGltcG9ydGFudCBwb2ludCBp } biBteSBjb25jZXJuLgotLSAKV2Vic2l0ZTogaHR0cDovL2RlZWRyYS50aGUtYnJhbm5vbnMuY29t } CmJsb2c6IGh0dHA6Ly9kZWVkcmEudGhlLWJyYW5ub25zLmNvbS9ibG9nCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19f } X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwpTcGVha3VwIG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdApT } cGVha3VwQGxpbnV4LXNwZWFrdXAub3JnCmh0dHA6Ly9saW51eC1zcGVha3VwLm9yZy9jZ2ktYmlu } L21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8vc3BlYWt1cAo= >-- End of excerpt from Deedra Waters _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
