I've been on the linux kernel list and there is no way that speakup is going to get out of staging without a rewrite. The people on the list kept asking me why speakup can't run in user space and stuff like that. The idea that speakup is for blind people like video output is for sighted people was completely foreign. How would you like it if your monitor was blank until the system finished booting? Would you consider that adequate? They didn't have an answer for that. But I'll admit that I don't understand exactly what their problems are with the speakup code. It doesn't matter though because Red Hat's solution doesn't have to involve speakup. It would be nice if it did though. On 03/29/2013 11:15 AM, William F. Acker WB2FLW +1 303 722 7209 wrote: > What they said, in essence, was that they weren't interested in turning > on Speakup until it was out of staging . I was rather rudely encouraged > to get with upstream and make it happen. > >