Landmarks are a concept defined in ARIA, and independently supported by HTML 5. They will prove really useful when support catches up. For instance, consider a page with three chunks of content denoted by landmarks: Nav Bar; Main page content; Footer. A capable browser might allow you to autohide the Nav bar and the footer, thus reducing the clutter of what you would need to read through. I suspect Webaim are a bit premature to base much on Landmarks just yet, though. Janina Kyle writes: > I'm actually glad you mentioned Speakup and Lynx. As a matter of fact, I > submitted a rather detailed comment at the end of my survey not only > mentioning Orca, but letting their staff know that the way I test my own > hand-coded websites for accessibility is by first testing them in Lynx, > Links and w3m with both Speakup and Orca. If all this stuff works, I > know my website is accessible to pretty much everyone, and I have lost > very little time in the process of building the website. SO I don't have > areas and landmarks, whatever those are, and I don't have all this > strange hidden text, so what the screen reader sees and what the end > user with eyeballs sees are extremely similar. So what, it works for > everyone, and I don't use those landmarks and regions the survey asked > about with my screen reader anyway, even though it supports them. Well, > I do use live regions to play the playroom website, which uses them > quite extensively for very useful things, but everywhere else, they just > tend to get in the way. I'm glad Orca does support these things, just in > case somehow they become useful, but for now, I build my websites clean > and simple without all kinds of clutter, and I do all I can to be sure > they just work no matter what browser someone happens to be using, > unless of course they use Internet Explorer, which I am unable to test. > ~Kyle > http://kyle.tk/ > -- > "Kyle? ... She calls her cake, Kyle?" > Out of This World, season 2 episode 21 - "The Amazing Evie" > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:janina at asterisk.rednote.net Email: janina at rednote.net Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf Indie UI http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/