-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I totally agree! Speakup is surely the fastest modern screen reader. I prefer the cli with speakup over crowded GUIs with windows, panels and toolbars which is more in the way than anything else. btw, the project at http://netrik.sourceforge.net looks like it can become the java/javascript browser for the console that we need so much. Take care, Rynhardt On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 01:38:54PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 03:10:10PM -0500, Terry D. Cudney wrote: > > Why do we want access to the gui? Only because the majority of the computer users in the world are sighted and they like to point-and-click. If we had a java/javascript-enabled browser that worked in the cli with speakup, I don't think we'd be looking at orca or other gui access schemes at all. > > Here here! > > Also, I'll throw in my own bit here, by saying that if it wasn't for > speakup, I'd probably still be stuck in windows 24/7. I remember > wanting to play with something called redhat somewhere around > 1996/1997, but I knew at the time of no way to get it to talk, so I > went from dos to using win95 instead. It wasn't until somewhere around > late 2000, when windows started really getting to me with everyday > use, that I investigated again, and found linux-speakup.org, and even > install media for some distros, which would let me do the install > independently! My biggest hurdle after that was to learn how to use > this think called gnu/linux, and by extension the unix systems, but I > think I haven't done badly there either, again in part to the helpful > folks on this list. > > I also wouldn't ever have tried netbsd without speakup. While I could > still have installed via a serial console, and ssh in from windows, > given the comfort of using ssh in windows when compared to using it > from gnu/linux with speakup, I think that in itself would have made me > give up shortly after starting, assuming I did in the first place. > > So, yes indeed, thanks to you Kirk, and the rest of those who made, > and continue to make speakup happen. > > Greg > > > - -- > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > - -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager at EU.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkls+94ACgkQ7s9z/XlyUyClZQCgysFrYTM3WUWF7bwq5RJe2l5W > sqsAoNqTE+tc9HSKITb7gif916PtkRza > =PAQN > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkls/0oACgkQ/bwpjrGDwszsUACglT6zwGDJcT8JeFrgnLSBYBhV kvEAnReiC4n7LUmJmRHGfqacih7g7jW+ =oU3f -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----