> I think it's not said often enough. Speakup is really, really nice. If it weren't for SpeakUP, I wouldn't even be on the computer. Windows without JAWS or one of the other $1000 screen readers doesn't do it for me. I use NVDA for my Windows screen reader, and it's still not very supportive of mIRC or Thunderbird, and my experiences on the web leave everything to be desired. The same pretty-much goes for Orca, at least in Debian, where half the time it doesn't even start, let alone work consistantly. SpeakUP is my primary screen reader, and now that I know about edbrowse, the web has actually become fun to surf again. After two days using edbrowse with SpeakUP, I can get around the web far faster than I can with Orca or links/links2. SpeakUP is the ONLY thing keeping me in contact with the outside world out here, and I can't thank Kirk and everyone enough for making it all possible. I am going to go out out on a semi-off-topic limb here and tell the people here having problems navigating the wiki pages for SpeakUP documentation to start using edbrowse. Run the configuration script in the examples directory. Learn the z, g, i, and macros commands included when you run the setup script. Try using edbrowse for a couple days and you'll ditch firefox and any other web browser out there. If you're like me and only use the GUI for firefox, you may never leave SpeakUP and the command line again. SpeakUP and a scriptable web browser written for the blind is a godsend. The "gg" and "wk" search macros make it a breeze to find things again. PS: If you like edbrowse as much as I do, convince Karl to make a Shift+Enter, "Line-Up" key so the thing can be backed up as well as advanced. I do miss having navigation keys on this project. Michael