I think it's not said often enough. Speakup is really, really nice. Lets face it, when the chips are down, you always fall back on speakup don't you? I know I do. The accessible debian install,er, talking grml CD, plus several a talking Windows installer I built myself. They all depend on speakup. Speakup is like that old PC you have that always works even when that new flashiy one is on the fritz again.You know what I mean? You've got your flashy new laptop or whatever but in an emergency, don't you want your old one running speakup? Say your network is down and you need to make a serial port connection. What do you want? I want speakup. When a machine won't boot, you put in your grml CD with speakup don't you? If I'm in a panic, I always just want something with speakup. -- John G. Heim jheim at math.wisc.edu 3-4189 http://www.math.wisc.edu/~jheim/