-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 03:10:10PM -0500, Terry D. Cudney wrote: > Why do we want access to the gui? Only because the majority of the computer users in the world are sighted and they like to point-and-click. If we had a java/javascript-enabled browser that worked in the cli with speakup, I don't think we'd be looking at orca or other gui access schemes at all. Here here! Also, I'll throw in my own bit here, by saying that if it wasn't for speakup, I'd probably still be stuck in windows 24/7. I remember wanting to play with something called redhat somewhere around 1996/1997, but I knew at the time of no way to get it to talk, so I went from dos to using win95 instead. It wasn't until somewhere around late 2000, when windows started really getting to me with everyday use, that I investigated again, and found linux-speakup.org, and even install media for some distros, which would let me do the install independently! My biggest hurdle after that was to learn how to use this think called gnu/linux, and by extension the unix systems, but I think I haven't done badly there either, again in part to the helpful folks on this list. I also wouldn't ever have tried netbsd without speakup. While I could still have installed via a serial console, and ssh in from windows, given the comfort of using ssh in windows when compared to using it from gnu/linux with speakup, I think that in itself would have made me give up shortly after starting, assuming I did in the first place. So, yes indeed, thanks to you Kirk, and the rest of those who made, and continue to make speakup happen. Greg - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager at EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkls+94ACgkQ7s9z/XlyUyClZQCgysFrYTM3WUWF7bwq5RJe2l5W sqsAoNqTE+tc9HSKITb7gif916PtkRza =PAQN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----