Hi, As I am using GRML and running gnome, I thought I would tell you how I have set it up for myself and some of my friends. Please note that some things I did may be totaly unnecisary but I did them just for incase. First I installed gnome, like this. apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment Then I installed orca. apt-get install gnome-orca I think gdm was installed when I installed gnome. It is neaded, because it runs at startup to make you login to gnome. I also whent to /etc/X11/xsession.d and created a file called 95gnome with the following line in it: /usr/bin/gnome-session (I don't think this step is necisary, but I did it anyway) When I restarted my computer, a short beep was sounded when I got to the graphical login. I type my username, press enter, type my password, press enter, and because of an error message about language en that isn't available, I press enter again. Now alt+f2 can be pressed to get to the run dialog and to get orca working by typing orca and pressing enter. Hope you could find an answer in the steps I took. Take care, Rynhardt p.s. If someone knows how to make that language message go away, I would appreciate it! * Tony Baechler <tony at baechler.net> [080305 21:02]: > Hi, > > OK, I definitely have Gnome installed. I looked at the pkg desc for gdm > and still don't know why I'm supposed to remove it. As soon as I tell > aptitude to remove it, I get a bunch of errors about broken packages. I > ran tasksel several times to install the desktop task like you said and > it just sat there at 0% even after waiting a long time. I have a fast > connection so I'm sure it wasn't downloading packages. I'm now positive > that I have all of Gnome installed. I ran startx and it still just > drops me on tty7 with no speech and no Orca. I'm sure I have gdm > removed even though it complained about gnome being broken. It still > wants to know what window manager to use and I don't think gnome itself > is a window manager. I've created new xorg config files from scratch a > bunch of times and still no luck. If I need to install something else, > what? I don't mind using Google but I'm not really sure what I'm > looking for since I'm sure gnome is fully installed now. It looks like > the window manager doesn't matter but whatever I pick doesn't work. If > I look at the x11-common pkg, it looks like it installs a bunch of other > window managers with no explanation of what to use. I don't mind > completely reinstalling everything but I'm not sure what pkgs to remove > other than gnome-desktop-environment. I still need help here and I'm > obviously missing something. > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- I use grml (http://grml.org/)